################################################################################ # # 2008 San Gorgonio Wilderness Water Source Observations # ################################################################################# # # This is a tab delimited file. It can be downloaded and imported into an app # such as Excel or FileMaker for added searchability and sorting. The column # headings are defined as the last commented (#) line below. # # Date Posted Water Source Conditions Date Observed Observed By 2008-04-24 Vivian Trailcamp water condition very good. lots of flow. clear snow runoffs. 2008-04-11 ryan 2008-04-27 Columbine No water in the creeks, but plenty of snow to melt. 2008-04-27 James 2008-04-27 Johns Meadow Plenty of water flowing in both creeks. Plenty of snow, too. 2008-04-06 James 2008-05-05 Vivian Trailcamp Good water flow, but not as strong as usual for the end of spring. The creek above the camp had pretty good flow in spots along the trail. 2008-05-04 Phil R. 2008-05-05 Halfway Trailcamp Good flow at the trail crossing. Looks like a mixture of spring water and snow melt. 2008-05-04 Phil 2008-05-06 Columbine Water is plentiful 100 yds up streambed from trail crossing. Streambed dry down from there, spring must go underground. 2008-05-04 DB 2008-05-19 Limber Pine (.3 mi.west) There is plenty of water if your willing to take the hike up to the water source, and it should last awhile too becuase of all the snow. If you don't want to take that little hike, then just melt the snow around the camp. 2008-05-18 Woodzy 2008-05-19 Lodgepole Spring Spring is not as high as I thought it would be but it is flowing. 2008-05-19 Damon 2008-05-19 South Fork Meadows Water everywhere 2008-05-19 Damon 2008-06-01 High Creek Trailcamp Water flowing from pipe. 1.25 gallons per minute 2008-05-31 MV849 2008-06-01 Jackstraw Water flowing, but seemed slow for this time of year. Only one stream had flow. Some snow still in area. 2008-05-31 MV849 2008-06-01 High Creek Trailcamp Sorry, May 31 post was for Trail Fork Springs. 2008-05-31 MV849 2008-06-01 Trailfork Water flowing from pipe. 1.25 gallons per minute. Lots of snow around pipe area. 2008-05-31 MV849 2008-06-12 Alger TrailCamp Excellent Flow at Creek. --ALSO-- Adequate flow at spring under cedar tree just east of Momyer Cr Trl and Alger Cr Trl junction 2008-04-25 Hikin' Jim 2008-06-16 Johns Meadow Water in Forsee Creek (east of camp) excellent flow. Water in small branch of Forsee Creek west of camp also excellent flow. 2008-04-26 Hikin' Jim 2008-06-17 Limber Pine (.3 mi.west) Plenty of water flowing .3 mi west of Limber Pine Camp. 2008-06-14 KathyW 2008-06-19 High Creek Trailcamp Plenty of water still. 2008-06-14 Hillbasher 2008-06-19 Halfway Trailcamp Stream still flowing' 2008-06-13 Hillbasher 2008-06-19 Vivian Trailcamp Stream still flowing' 2008-06-13 Hillbasher 2008-06-23 Mineshaft Flat (.3 miles down trail) Excellent flow, clear and cold from two distinct springs - very tasty water. 2008-06-20 Herminator 2008-06-28 High Creek Trailcamp Still plenty of flowing water 2008-06-27 Bioactive1 2008-06-29 Limber Pine (.3 mi.west) Nice Flow 2008-06-27 Bill 2008-06-29 Trailfork Fair flow, Flows also in the trail .2 miles west 2008-06-27 Bill 2008-06-29 High Meadow Springs Good flow - single stream 2008-06-28 Bill 2008-06-29 Dollar Lake View from Red Rock Flat indicates Dollar is about 1/2 full 2008-06-28 Bill 2008-06-29 Halfway Trailcamp Good flow 2008-06-29 Bill 2008-06-30 Trailfork 1.5 oliters/minute from the pipe. Much stronger flow 200 ft below the spring 2008-06-30 George Wysup 2008-06-30 Jackstraw 3 liters/minute flow from the spring farthest west. 2008-06-30 George Wysup 2008-07-05 High Meadow Springs Good flow -- much better than last year at this time 2008-07-04 AlanK 2008-07-07 Fish Creek 1/2 mile above camp, stream runs 2008-07-06 Corgiman 2008-07-14 Dollar Lake Spring is flowing, 40 seconds to fill a liter bottle. Nice clear pool. Lake is less than half full, getting a green tinge. See pictures on bulletin board. 2008-07-12 Jan Trumbo 2008-07-14 Lodgepole Spring Good flow...and beautiful 2008-07-13 Corgiman 2008-07-20 Mineshaft Flat (.3 miles down trail) Good Flow, multiple locations 2008-07-20 Steve B. 2008-07-20 Fish Creek Water about 1/2 mile upcreek is a trickle; Plan to get muddy and have a long wait to fill anything there. 2008-07-20 Steve B 2008-07-26 Alger TrailCamp Good water flow at the campground. 2008-07-12 MuffenMan 2008-08-02 Limber Pine (.3 mi.west) Good Flow! 2008-08-31 Nate 2008-08-02 High Meadow Springs Good Flow 2008-08-01 Nate 2008-08-02 Limber Pine (.3 mi.west) I goofed up and put August 31st when I meant July 31st..the previous entry is for JULY 31st- Good Flow 2008-07-31 Nate (CORRECTION) 2008-08-02 High Creek Trailcamp Good Flow 2008-08-01 Nate 2008-08-02 Vivian Trailcamp Great Flow 2008-08-01 Nate 2008-08-02 Halfway Trailcamp Good Flow 2008-08-01 Nate 2008-08-02 Trailfork 2 minutes per liter from the pipe 2008-08-02 George W 2008-08-03 Lodgepole Spring fine flow 2008-07-27 marc 2008-08-16 Lodgepole Spring Good flow. The spring has some nice small pools to collect from. The spring runs about 50 yards before disappearing into the soil again. Plenty of water in that 50 yards tho. 2008-08-08 Steve 2008-08-17 Halfway Trailcamp good 2008-08-17 marc 2008-08-17 High Creek Trailcamp good flow 2008-08-17 marc 2008-08-17 Trailfork slow trickle, but good enough 2008-08-17 marc 2008-08-17 Vivian Trailcamp very good 2008-08-17 marc 2008-08-20 Fish Creek Plenty of water on the trail about .3 miles past the campground. 2008-08-16 Laura 2008-08-20 High Meadow Springs Water flowing from spring about half a mile down a side trail from camp. Steep Climb! 2008-08-16 Laura 2008-08-25 Jackstraw Slow clear flow, enough to pump from. 2008-08-23 DJG 2008-08-25 Trailfork Steady clear trickle from the pipe. 2008-08-24 DJG 2008-09-07 Fish Creek Good flow above the creek crossing 2008-09-07 Corgiman 2008-09-07 Jackstraw two springs running, can be filtered 2008-09-13 Coirgiman 2008-09-07 Trailfork still flowing 2008-09-07 marc 2008-09-14 Lodgepole Spring Nice water flow som pools for filling 2008-09-15 Corgiman 2008-09-15 Alger TrailCamp TONS of roaring and cold water. 2008-09-14 Terra 2008-09-15 Dobbs Trailcamp WONDERFULL site loaded with loud roaring water on both sides - very cold. 2008-09-14 Terra 2008-09-16 Big Tree Good flow in small creek near camp. Also good flow in N Fork of Whitewater River. 2008-09-12 Hikin' Jim 2008-09-16 Fish Creek Some flow right across the trail. Better flow slightly up stream. Excellent flow BEFORE you get to camp at Fish Creek 2008-09-12 Hikin' Jim 2008-09-16 Fish Creek Saddle Dry 2008-09-12 Hikin' Jim 2008-09-16 Johns Meadow Main branch of Forsee Creek (east of camp), excellent flow. Water in small branch of Forsee Creek west of camp also excellent flow. Also, all three of the water sources between the trailhead and Forsee Creek were flowing well. This year is a much better water year than last year. 2008-09-12 Hikin' Jim 2008-09-16 Mineshaft Flat (.3 miles down trail) Excellent flow. 2008-09-12 Hikin' Jim 2008-09-21 Lodgepole Spring Good flow 2008-09-20 D. 2008-09-23 Dollar Lake $ Lake is Dry but still good flow on the Spring. 2008-09-20 Allan 2008-09-23 Alger TrailCamp Plenty of rushing cold water. 2008-09-21 CampTyler 2008-09-23 Dobbs Trailcamp Plenty of rushing water from multiple sources. 2008-09-21 CampTyler 2008-10-04 High Creek Trailcamp Excellent flow 2008-10-03 Jim & Pat 2008-10-04 Vivian Trailcamp Excellent flow 2008-10-03 Jim & Pat 2008-10-04 High Creek Trailcamp The last post says "excellent," but that's a strong word for the flow at high Creek. It's okay, filtering still doable. 2008-10-04 Liz 2008-10-06 Trailfork Trickle from pipe, but filled 6L in reasonable time 2008-10-05 Long4Trails 2008-10-12 Lodgepole Spring Good flow for about 50' before disappearing into the sand. Some pools deep enough to filter. 2008-10-10 Steve Vandecar 2008-10-13 Halfway Trailcamp Water available 2008-10-03 Jim D 2008-10-13 Vivian Trailcamp Water available 2008-10-03 Jim D 2008-10-13 High Creek Trailcamp Water Available 2008-10-03 Jim D 2008-10-14 Fish Creek Water was flowing well at Fish Creek near Aspen Grove TH on 10/10/2008. 2008-10-10 Hikin' Jim 2008-10-14 South Fork Meadows Taking trail to Dry Lake we crossed 4 streams (5'-20'wide) with very good flow 2008-10-11 Vande 2008-10-17 Fish Creek Flowing, though mostly frozen at 4pm above Fish Creek Camp. 2008-10-11 Rumpled 2008-10-17 Fish Creek Saddle No water discovered. 2008-10-11 Rumpled 2008-10-20 Fish Creek water available but muddy low flow above camp at bend in trail before switch back 2008-10-18 skip 2008-10-21 Limber Pine (.3 mi.west) Fine. Water is running again, sufficient to harvest if not hard-frozen. Light snow fell during night of 10th. Did not melt over 24 hours. 2008-10-11 Kathy 2008-10-29 Halfway Trailcamp A little less than the usual flow, but still adequate. 2008-10-27 Riverside Yankee 2008-10-29 High Creek Trailcamp Less than the usual flow, but still adequate for my MSR Miniworks. 2008-10-27 Riverside Yankee 2008-10-29 Lodgepole Spring Streamlet came all the way to the trail. Several pools deep enough for filtering. 2008-10-26 Phil R 2008-11-08 Limber Pine (.3 mi.west) frozen but adequately flowing 2008-11-08 luscious lars 2008-11-10 Lodgepole Spring Good flow, plenty for pumping 2008-11-09 Bill 2008-11-16 Lodgepole Spring No water :-( 2008-11-15 Martha 2008-11-17 Johns Meadow Both streams that border the meadow are flowing very well. 2008-11-16 Pat Yates 2008-11-17 Lodgepole Spring Adequate flow, easily good enough for pumping. Water only visible for about 100 feet above ground from spring--have to search a little for it. 2008-11-16 Mark L 2008-12-22 Johns Meadow Both streams are running well, full flows. 2" snow over night!!!! 2008-12-14 John