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Alger TrailCamp: No features noted
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
flowing fine...plenty of water 2006-02-20 Damon 2006-02-20
Plenty of water 2006-09-23 Steel 2006-09-30
Great Flow 2006-10-08 Bill G. 2006-10-09
Excellent Flow of water. Also, there is a spring between the junction of the Momyer Creek Trail and the trail over to Alger creek. There is adequate but not abundant water at that spring. if you needed water and were headed to the San Bernardino Peak area, you could get water at the spring, saving about 15 minutes when compared with going all the way to Alger Trail Camp, and the spring is before you lose all that elevation descending from the old Dobb's Flume to Alger Trail Camp. 2006-10-13 Hikin' Jim 2006-10-15
Very nice flow 2007-06-14 D 2007-06-13
Nice flow of water. Saw a bear too!! 2007-06-19 RON J 2007-07-03
Good flow 2007-07-14 tomonthelam 2007-07-16
Great flow. 2007-09-15 Rob 2007-09-19
Great flow in trail camp. Low flow but still collectible at the spring on the Alger Creek Trail that is near the Momyer Cr Tr/Alger Creek Tr jct. 2007-09-14 Hikin' Jim 2007-09-20
Big Tree: No features noted
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
Creek has good flow. Creek is about 20ft from camp site. 2007-09-28 SteveM 2007-10-01
Columbine: No features noted
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
enough of a flow to work. 2006-09-02 lusciouslars 2006-09-03
dry no water 2007-04-14 Water guy 2007-04-14
Nice hike but VERY DRY! 2007-06-10 D 2007-06-10
No water in the creeks, but plenty of snow to melt. 2008-04-27 James 2008-04-27
Water is plentiful 100 yds up streambed from trail crossing. Streambed dry down from there, spring must go underground. 2008-05-04 DB 2008-05-06
Dobbs Trailcamp: No features noted
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
Plenty of water 2006-09-23 Steel 2006-09-30
Excellent source of water in both branches of the creek (Dobbs T.C. is at the confluence of two branches of Falls Creek). 2006-10-13 Hikin' Jim 2006-10-15
Very Nice Flow 2007-06-13 D 2007-06-13
Good flow, large fish, large bear 2007-07-14 tomonthelam 2007-07-16
Dollar Lake: No features noted
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
Top of lake is frozen. You are able to get water from below by breaking the surface ice 2006-01-01 Steven Myers 2006-01-07
from trail to alto diablo (~700feet above) dollar lake looked dry. 2007-05-13 ml 2007-05-14
the water from labor day wasn't retained. There is nothing but puddles on the lake floor this weekend. Don't rely uupon Dollar Lake as a water source. 2007-09-22 Ian Smith 2007-09-23
Fish Creek: Stream crosses trail .5 mi up trail from camp
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
The creek at the trail crossing has plentiful water. 2006-06-24 R. French 2006-06-25
Low flow, can be filtered 2007-06-17 corgiman 2007-06-16
Small stream above camp runs, collect up stream, contaminated by horse manure yesterday, I cleaned it out best I could...braided stream by table rock also contaminated by horse tied up within a yard of stream…I could not get all of it out without a shovel… 2007-08-07 Corgiman 2007-08-08
Moderate flow at the trail crossing a half mile up from camp; should head upstream 10-20 yards to pump. 2007-09-30 Edd 2007-10-02
Very Slow water flow just past the Fish Creek Trail Camp (about 1/8 mile past the camp). 2007-11-10 Just Another Mile 2007-11-13
Fish Creek Saddle: No features noted
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
No water at saddle. Supposedly, there is a seasonal spring (not Lodgepole) just West of the saddle, but no sign of water this time of year. 2006-09-13 Hikin' Jim 2006-09-21
Searched for a green spot, found none 2007-08-07 Corgiman 2007-08-08
Halfway Trail Camp: No features noted
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
Observed 2/26/06. Plenty of water down the trail from the camp. 2006-02-26 Steve M 2006-03-08
Good water, flowing stream 2006-06-11 Lance Smith 2006-06-15
Water source excellent. Good flow. 2006-08-26 Paul Goymerac 2006-09-02
water a little sluggish but can be filtered 2007-04-01 AsABat 2007-04-02
Water flow was good at Halfway camp. Water is located at the creek just before you reach Halfway Camp / High Creek trail sign on your way up to San Gorgonio. Just where the trail crosses the creek, if you go up the right side of the creek, there is a nice water fall to fill a collapsible bucket from which to filter water. 2007-04-14 gsnishi 2007-04-17
Plenty of water for filtering 2007-05-05 Dan Girard 2007-05-07
No water flowing where the stream crosses the trail just before you get to the camp. However, there are small pools about 100 yards up the stream bed. Follow the use trail that is just to the left of the stream bed to get to the pools. 2007-06-16 Phil R 2007-06-18
Another person in our group checked out the water in the pools along the use trail mentioned in a previous post and found the pools with adequate flow for filtering water. 2007-07-22 Steve 2007-07-23
no water crossing the trail, didn't check for the aforementioned pools. 2007-08-11 Tyler 2007-08-13
The creek is dry where it crosses the trail, but 350 feet upstream we found plentiful running water. 2007-08-17 ruscal 2007-08-21
No water flow where trail crosses creek, but go upstream about 150 feet and there's filterable water. 2007-09-08 Denise 2007-09-10
Good flow at the trail crossing. Looks like a mixture of spring water and snow melt. 2008-05-04 Phil 2008-05-05
High Creek Trail Camp: No features noted
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
Observed 2/26/06. Plenty of water at the camp. Waterfall was partially frozen. Pretty green ice. 2006-02-26 Steve M 2006-03-08
Good water, flowing stream. 2006-06-11 Lance Smith 2006-06-15
Still plenty of water flowing. 2006-08-20 BLT 2006-08-23
Good Flow 2006-10-07 Bill G. 2006-10-09
water flowing ok but lower that I've seen it in some Julys 2007-04-01 AsABat 2007-04-02
water flowing nicely, but below normal for time of year 2007-03-14 hillbasher 2007-04-11
Water flow was good. Water source is located just beyond High Creek campsites where the trail crosses the creek. 2007-04-13 gsnishi 2007-04-17
Good flow 2007-05-05 Dan Girard 2007-05-07
Trickling enough to be useful, maybe more than a "trickle." I had to lean my bottles against a rock, but it was not too difficult to fill them. Easy to cross without getting my feet wet. 2007-05-24 Perry 2007-05-27
Creek still has good water flow and is good for filtering. 2007-06-10 Ben 2007-06-13
Nice flow - but looking lower than usaul 2007-06-13 D 2007-06-13
enough water flow to use filters and enjoy drinking this refreshing, cristaline, and cool water. Thank God for his wonderful creation as seen in the San Gorgonio Mountain. 2007-06-29 ema 2007-07-01
I was able to fill my bottles and use iodine tablets because somebody made a nice pool about 10 or 15 feet above the trail, deep enough for bottles. Still low flow, but it appears the flow has not changed much in the last month. Hopefully that means it will continue for awhile... 2007-07-02 Perry 2007-07-02
Low, but enough to fit a water bottle into if you dig a little. 2007-07-05 Marc 2007-07-05
The small creek along the trail laving the camp was flowing slowly. It was easy to collect plenty of water for drinking and there were pools that would have made filtering easy. 2007-07-07 Alan Kleinsasser 2007-07-08
Flow is small but brisk. Pools above the trail are deep enough to wash feet. 2007-07-09 Brainybuffoon 2007-07-18
Decent pools and flow of water for filtering. 2007-07-22 Steve 2007-07-23
It was noticeably lower than the last time I posted, but still flowing enough to fill water bottles. It did rain enough to possibly increase water flow temporarily. 2007-07-26 Perry 2007-07-28
Excellent flow found below the camp site next to the stream - nice waterfall in the canyon below, visible as you approach the camp. 2007-07-28 Rich 2007-07-30
Lowest I've seen so far this year. Barely enough for water bottles. Soon it will only be useable if you have a pump with a tube. The effects of that rain on July 26 were very short-term. It's now a trickle again. 2007-08-06 Perry 2007-08-06
Water flow okay, definitely enough to pump if needed. 2007-08-11 Tyler 2007-08-13
There's still a decent flow for filtering. 2007-08-18 Marie 2007-08-21
Good water flow in the stream. 2007-08-17 ruscal 2007-08-21
Low water flow, but filterable if you upstream a bit. 2007-09-09 Denise 2007-09-10
Waterfall going 200 or so yards below High Creek - good luck getting to it. Decent water flow at High Creek Camp, just up and across the drainage. Oh, when I say I will be back if no water, I mean: abort current trip and be back another day 2007-11-23 MAN 2007-11-25
High Meadow Springs: Water is a bit downhill from camp
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
Lots of water flowing! 2006-05-28 Brent Miller 2006-05-29
Good water supply. The upper 30 feet of the spring was beginning to dry out. 2006-06-16 Mike Peralez 2006-07-04
Water flow minimal but suitable for use with water filter. Note: I went to the first place I saw water. There may be another spot in the meadow that is more suitable. 2006-09-14 Hikin' Jim 2006-09-21
good flow 2006-11-11 John 2006-11-13
Water was flowing gently, but not off of the wooden trough that is normally the best place to filter. Bring a pot or something to filter out of. If you have never been to this spring before, note that you have to find the meadow below the campsites and look for the wet area. The area is somewhat steep.UTM 11 S 0512322 3775842 (someone else please verify) 2007-05-26 Phil R 2007-05-28
Low flow, pump necessary. 2007-05-26 TimM 2007-05-28
Water is flowing very slowly. There was sufficient volume to collect several liters in a few minutes. We collected water in a 1/2 liter bottle and used it to fill a couple of 1 liter bottles. It was hard to do much else. We did not filter, although that would have help to keep the dirt out. 2007-07-07 Alan Kleinsasser 2007-07-08
XC up Plummer Meadow to HMS water most of the way ----- scarcer at the top but still there! 2007-09-20 D 2007-09-21
Jackstraw: No features noted
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
This post is for Jan 2006.. Water was heard bubbling under the snow. We dug a hole and found the spring was flowing. 2006-01-28 Steven Myers 2006-01-29
drying up, but enough of a flow to work. 2006-07-31 lusciouslars 2006-08-09
Not a lot of water, but enough to use with a water filter. There was also a creek running well about half way up to Jackstraw from the Forsee trail head. There are also some springs marked some distance along the trail below Jackstraw springs. Very minimal water here. You'd really have to work at it to get water here. It was mostly in puddles on the trail. Yuck. 2006-09-15 Hikin' Jim 2006-09-21
Flowing 2007-04-22 Alon 2007-04-25
Water flowing at both locations. Flow low for this time of year. Lower flow than last September (the last time I was through this area). 2007-04-27 Hikin' Jim 2007-04-30
Additional Note: En Route to Jackstraw, Round Cienga Creek is flowing and has useable water. Stetson Creek is dry at both lower and upper trail crossings. One small seep above Stetson creek en route to Jackstraw, but the only pools I saw were directly on the trail. 2007-04-27 Hikin' Jim 2007-04-30
Low flow, a trickle just above the trail and puddles all around. 2007-05-28 TimM 2007-05-28
Puddles but no observable flow at the first seep. Measured about 1 qt/min at the spring closest to camping area: must use pump in very muddy bottom puddles. 2007-06-08 Gary Bickel 2007-06-08
Normal streamlettes were dry. 2007-07-28 Phil R 2007-08-01
Went in today all streams and springs dry, except the very last one nearest the camp. Trickle of a flow, but small pools could be pumped, and the stream still runs. 2007-08-04 Corgiman 2007-08-04
Johns Meadow: Camp is located between two streams
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
Both streams of either side of the camp are flowing well. YEAR-07-30 Phil R 2006-09-03
As always, plenty of water in both creeks on either side of the trail camp at John's Meadow. Also some water in creeks on trail from Forsee Cr. trailhead. 2006-09-16 Hikin' Jim 2006-09-21
All springs and streams were running, But flow is low for this time of year 2007-04-05 AOHiker 2007-04-12
Water flowing well at Forsee Creek and the two small subsidiary branches of Forsee Creek that are East of the trail camp. Flow low for this time of year. 2007-04-25 Hikin' Jim 2007-04-30
Plenty of water. Pump not necessary. 2007-05-28 TimM 2007-05-28
Plenty of water in both creeks on either side of the trail camp at John's Meadow. 2007-09-16 Greg B 2007-09-16
Plenty of water flowing in both creeks. Plenty of snow, too. 2008-04-06 James 2008-04-27
Limber Pine: Limber Pine: Water is .3 mi East (up trail)
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
This observation is Jan 15th 2006. Dug a hole about a foot or more in the snow. Came across running water. Amazingly enough the spring is still flowing. 2003-01-15 Steven Myers 2006-01-16
this report is for Feb 18 2006. Dug through the snow. Found the spring still running underneath 2006-02-18 Steven Myers 2006-02-19
2-18-06. Flowing water can be found under the snow at the spring 2006-02-18 Steve Myers 2006-02-20
Lots of water flowing on either side of the campground along the trail (about .25 miles). Some snow still left at the camps. 2006-05-27 Brent Miller 2006-05-29
enough of a flow to work. 2006-09-02 lusciouslars 2006-09-03
good flow 2006-11-11 John 2006-11-13
Water flowing well. Was easy to pump water with my MSR filter. Limber Pine Bench free of snow, but a lot of snow on trail on N facing slopes above LP Spgs. 2007-04-26 Hikin' Jim 2007-04-30
flow at the place above limber pine trail camp. no flow where the trail crosses the "stream" below limber pine trail camp. 2007-05-14 ml 2007-05-14
Low flow, a small trickle with puddles. 2007-05-26 TimM 2007-05-28
Very little flow but still a few puddles - don't count on it for long! Never seen it this low this early 2007-06-10 D 2007-06-10
Very low flow, but still enough to fill water bottles if you need to. 2007-07-21 Kathy W. 2007-07-22
Very low flow still, but enough to fill bottles. About 30 feet up is the best place to get the water. 2007-08-18 Mike M 2007-08-20
Water still flowing- okay for filtering 2007-09-16 Ben 2007-09-27
Very low trickle, enough to filter if you're patient. 2007-09-30 Jonny C 2007-10-01
Limber Pine Spring is now DRY! I did not see any place to obtain water on the entire trail all day. 2007-10-20 DRHABES 2007-10-25
Lodgepole Spring: The usual source if camping at Dry Lake
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
Spring is flowing well. Plenty of pools to filter to from. You need to go about 100 yds or more up the canyon to find it. The water goes underground before reaching Dry Lake 2003-01-01 Steven Myers 2006-01-07
It's dry down by the lake, but there is plenty of water if you follow the dry bed up a couple of hundred yards. When you see lots of green plants, that's the best spot to filter. 2006-06-30 Ricardo 2006-07-05
Spring is still running (about 200 yards from Dry Lake). Best location for filling up is near the greenery. 2006-07-02 Steve & Haan-Fawn 2006-07-05
Good flow and could filter below the greenery. Dry Lake is still very full (but I wouldn't filter from it unless I had to). 2006-09-03 Phil R 2006-09-03
Plenty of water. Easy to use with filter. 2006-09-13 Hikin' Jim 2006-09-21
Actually this comment is for DRY LAKE (don't know why they don't have that option). PLENTY of water in the Lake. 2006-09-14 Hikin' Jim 2006-09-21
lake is about 1/3 full and brackish. the spring is flowing moderately. hard not to pick up a leaf or twig without a filter. lots of flies. pair of clark's nutcrackers drinking from spring. tamed doe meandering through camp. 2007-06-30 lusciouslars 2007-07-03
Dry lake has water in it will need filtered. Logdgpole springs running at a good trickle. 2007-07-07 corgiman 2007-07-07
Low flow, but still plenty to fill all water needs. 2007-07-15 Mike Peralez 2007-07-17
More than 1 gallon every 10 seconds. Several man made 6" deep pools for filtering. We collected water from a little waterfall into a 1 gallon jug and filtered from the jug. 2007-07-13 Bob 2007-07-18
Slow flow, but enough to filter out of. 2007-07-18 Marc 2007-07-18
three reports of usable water and good flow 2007-08-05 Corgiman 2007-08-05
Decent flow at the spring. The trace trail to Fish Creek Saddle is crossed by the water about 5 mins beyond Dry Lake. Water disappears underground almost immediately. 2007-09-29 Lopzilla 2007-10-16
Still water coming from the spring, its a slow trickle but plenty of water to fill up with 2007-11-11 adam 2007-11-14
Mineshaft Flat: Water is .3 mi down trail
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
Good flow 2007-06-20 DaveB 2007-06-26
Good cold, flow. Beware of stinging nettle. .3 miles is optimistic. 2007-07-01 GrantB 2007-07-02
Good flow at spring and creek. 2007-07-14 Mike Peralez 2007-07-17
Good flow at springs and further down the valley (center) due to lots of water seepage on hillside. 2007-09-28 SteveM 2007-10-01
Saxton Trail Camp: Water is .2 mi West
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
Water before camp and at Plummer meadows flowing good 2006-09-24 Steel 2006-09-30
Good Flow 2006-10-07 Bill G. 2006-10-09
Nice Flow 2007-06-13 D 2007-06-13
Flowing quite well; plenty of water. Filterable pools. Also: there's even more water in the creek that descends from High Meadow Spgs and crosses the Falls Cr Tr (the trail that Saxton is on) in the Plummer Meadows area.
2007-09-20
South Fork Meadows: Water is all over around here. Can't miss it.
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
Lots of water. Beautiful, cool, and refreshing. You'll hear it long before you see it. 2006-06-30 Ricardo 2006-07-05
ABUNDANT water. Can't go wrong here. 2006-09-13 Hikin' Jim 2006-09-21
Plenty of water, a pump is unnessary. 2007-05-27 TimM 2007-05-28
Plenty of water 2007-07-18 Marc 2007-07-18
Plenty of water 2007-07-18 Marc 2007-07-18
Flowing well, always beautiful 2007-08-05 Big Bear Today 2007-08-06
Water flow is good at the trail crossing to Dry Lake. 2007-10-14 Space Hiker 2007-10-16
Trailfork: No features noted
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
Water is running good out of the pipe at the Spring. Water is also running good in the stream. 2006-06-10 Kathy 2006-06-11
looks dry to me. could not find water. 2006-09-02 lusciouslars 2006-09-03
Maybe I didn't know where to look, but I rustled around in the Willows but saw no useable water. I suppose if you were desperate you could filter the mud ... good luck. 2006-09-15 Hikin' Jim 2006-09-21
Water b a r e l y trickling out of pipe into small pool, enough to pump out of. Pipe located in the bushes below the trail. 2006-10-01 Ramblindave 2006-10-02
Completely frozen and buried. Plenty of snow to melt for water. 2007-04-27 Hikin' Jim 2007-04-30
no water. small dirty patches of snow. 2007-05-13 ml 2007-05-14
A tiny trickle comes out of the pipe if you push down on it. Water also can be pumped out from puddles. 2007-05-27 TimM 2007-05-28
Vivian Trail Camp: No features noted
ConditionsDate ObservedObserved ByDate Posted
This is for Feb 26 2006. Plenty of water running. 2006-02-26 Steven M 2006-03-08
Observed 2/26/06. Plenty of water at the camp. 2006-02-26 Steve M 2006-03-08
Good water, flowing stream 2006-06-11 Lance Smith 2006-06-15
water flowing well 2007-04-01 AsABat 2007-04-02
Water flow was good at Vivian 2007-04-15 gsnishi 2007-04-17
Good flow YEAR-MONTH-DAY Dan Girard 2007-05-07
Plenty of water around Vivian Creek!! Enjoy!! 2007-05-27 RON J 2007-05-27
Nice flow - but much less than normal 2007-06-13 D 2007-06-13
Lower than usual, but adequate flow. 2007-07-05 Marc 2007-07-05
Still more than adequate flow of water for filtering water. 2007-07-22 Steve 2007-07-23
Still more than adequate flow of water for filtering water. 2007-08-11 Tyler 2007-08-13
Still good flow for filtering. 2007-08-19 Marie 2007-08-21
Good water flow. 2007-08-17 ruscal 2007-08-21
Good water flow. 2007-09-09 Denise 2007-09-10
water condition very good. lots of flow. clear snow runoffs. 2008-04-11 ryan 2008-04-24
Good water flow, but not as strong as usual for the end of spring. The creek above the camp had pretty good flow in spots along the trail. 2008-05-04 Phil R. 2008-05-05

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