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| Alger TrailCamp: No features noted | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| flowing fine...plenty of water | 2006-02-20 | Damon | 2006-02-20 | |
| Plenty of water | 2006-09-23 | Steel | 2006-09-30 | |
| Great Flow | 2006-10-08 | Bill G. | 2006-10-09 | |
| Excellent Flow of water. Also, there is a spring between the junction of the Momyer Creek Trail and the trail over to Alger creek. There is adequate but not abundant water at that spring. if you needed water and were headed to the San Bernardino Peak area, you could get water at the spring, saving about 15 minutes when compared with going all the way to Alger Trail Camp, and the spring is before you lose all that elevation descending from the old Dobb's Flume to Alger Trail Camp. | 2006-10-13 | Hikin' Jim | 2006-10-15 | |
| Very nice flow | 2007-06-14 | D | 2007-06-13 | |
| Nice flow of water. Saw a bear too!! | 2007-06-19 | RON J | 2007-07-03 | |
| Good flow | 2007-07-14 | tomonthelam | 2007-07-16 | |
| Great flow. | 2007-09-15 | Rob | 2007-09-19 | |
| Great flow in trail camp. Low flow but still collectible at the spring on the Alger Creek Trail that is near the Momyer Cr Tr/Alger Creek Tr jct. | 2007-09-14 | Hikin' Jim | 2007-09-20 | |
| Big Tree: No features noted | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| Creek has good flow. Creek is about 20ft from camp site. | 2007-09-28 | SteveM | 2007-10-01 | |
| Columbine: No features noted | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| enough of a flow to work. | 2006-09-02 | lusciouslars | 2006-09-03 | |
| dry no water | 2007-04-14 | Water guy | 2007-04-14 | |
| Nice hike but VERY DRY! | 2007-06-10 | D | 2007-06-10 | |
| No water in the creeks, but plenty of snow to melt. | 2008-04-27 | James | 2008-04-27 | |
| Water is plentiful 100 yds up streambed from trail crossing. Streambed dry down from there, spring must go underground. | 2008-05-04 | DB | 2008-05-06 | |
| Dobbs Trailcamp: No features noted | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| Plenty of water | 2006-09-23 | Steel | 2006-09-30 | |
| Excellent source of water in both branches of the creek (Dobbs T.C. is at the confluence of two branches of Falls Creek). | 2006-10-13 | Hikin' Jim | 2006-10-15 | |
| Very Nice Flow | 2007-06-13 | D | 2007-06-13 | |
| Good flow, large fish, large bear | 2007-07-14 | tomonthelam | 2007-07-16 | |
| Dollar Lake: No features noted | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| Top of lake is frozen. You are able to get water from below by breaking the surface ice | 2006-01-01 | Steven Myers | 2006-01-07 | |
| from trail to alto diablo (~700feet above) dollar lake looked dry. | 2007-05-13 | ml | 2007-05-14 | |
| the water from labor day wasn't retained. There is nothing but puddles on the lake floor this weekend. Don't rely uupon Dollar Lake as a water source. | 2007-09-22 | Ian Smith | 2007-09-23 | |
| Fish Creek: Stream crosses trail .5 mi up trail from camp | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| The creek at the trail crossing has plentiful water. | 2006-06-24 | R. French | 2006-06-25 | |
| Low flow, can be filtered | 2007-06-17 | corgiman | 2007-06-16 | |
| Small stream above camp runs, collect up stream, contaminated by horse manure yesterday, I cleaned it out best I could...braided stream by table rock also contaminated by horse tied up within a yard of stream…I could not get all of it out without a shovel… | 2007-08-07 | Corgiman | 2007-08-08 | |
| Moderate flow at the trail crossing a half mile up from camp; should head upstream 10-20 yards to pump. | 2007-09-30 | Edd | 2007-10-02 | |
| Very Slow water flow just past the Fish Creek Trail Camp (about 1/8 mile past the camp). | 2007-11-10 | Just Another Mile | 2007-11-13 | |
| Fish Creek Saddle: No features noted | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| No water at saddle. Supposedly, there is a seasonal spring (not Lodgepole) just West of the saddle, but no sign of water this time of year. | 2006-09-13 | Hikin' Jim | 2006-09-21 | |
| Searched for a green spot, found none | 2007-08-07 | Corgiman | 2007-08-08 | |
| Halfway Trail Camp: No features noted | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| Observed 2/26/06. Plenty of water down the trail from the camp. | 2006-02-26 | Steve M | 2006-03-08 | |
| Good water, flowing stream | 2006-06-11 | Lance Smith | 2006-06-15 | |
| Water source excellent. Good flow. | 2006-08-26 | Paul Goymerac | 2006-09-02 | |
| water a little sluggish but can be filtered | 2007-04-01 | AsABat | 2007-04-02 | |
| Water flow was good at Halfway camp. Water is located at the creek just before you reach Halfway Camp / High Creek trail sign on your way up to San Gorgonio. Just where the trail crosses the creek, if you go up the right side of the creek, there is a nice water fall to fill a collapsible bucket from which to filter water. | 2007-04-14 | gsnishi | 2007-04-17 | |
| Plenty of water for filtering | 2007-05-05 | Dan Girard | 2007-05-07 | |
| No water flowing where the stream crosses the trail just before you get to the camp. However, there are small pools about 100 yards up the stream bed. Follow the use trail that is just to the left of the stream bed to get to the pools. | 2007-06-16 | Phil R | 2007-06-18 | |
| Another person in our group checked out the water in the pools along the use trail mentioned in a previous post and found the pools with adequate flow for filtering water. | 2007-07-22 | Steve | 2007-07-23 | |
| no water crossing the trail, didn't check for the aforementioned pools. | 2007-08-11 | Tyler | 2007-08-13 | |
| The creek is dry where it crosses the trail, but 350 feet upstream we found plentiful running water. | 2007-08-17 | ruscal | 2007-08-21 | |
| No water flow where trail crosses creek, but go upstream about 150 feet and there's filterable water. | 2007-09-08 | Denise | 2007-09-10 | |
| Good flow at the trail crossing. Looks like a mixture of spring water and snow melt. | 2008-05-04 | Phil | 2008-05-05 | |
| High Creek Trail Camp: No features noted | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| Observed 2/26/06. Plenty of water at the camp. Waterfall was partially frozen. Pretty green ice. | 2006-02-26 | Steve M | 2006-03-08 | |
| Good water, flowing stream. | 2006-06-11 | Lance Smith | 2006-06-15 | |
| Still plenty of water flowing. | 2006-08-20 | BLT | 2006-08-23 | |
| Good Flow | 2006-10-07 | Bill G. | 2006-10-09 | |
| water flowing ok but lower that I've seen it in some Julys | 2007-04-01 | AsABat | 2007-04-02 | |
| water flowing nicely, but below normal for time of year | 2007-03-14 | hillbasher | 2007-04-11 | |
| Water flow was good. Water source is located just beyond High Creek campsites where the trail crosses the creek. | 2007-04-13 | gsnishi | 2007-04-17 | |
| Good flow | 2007-05-05 | Dan Girard | 2007-05-07 | |
| Trickling enough to be useful, maybe more than a "trickle." I had to lean my bottles against a rock, but it was not too difficult to fill them. Easy to cross without getting my feet wet. | 2007-05-24 | Perry | 2007-05-27 | |
| Creek still has good water flow and is good for filtering. | 2007-06-10 | Ben | 2007-06-13 | |
| Nice flow - but looking lower than usaul | 2007-06-13 | D | 2007-06-13 | |
| enough water flow to use filters and enjoy drinking this refreshing, cristaline, and cool water. Thank God for his wonderful creation as seen in the San Gorgonio Mountain. | 2007-06-29 | ema | 2007-07-01 | |
| I was able to fill my bottles and use iodine tablets because somebody made a nice pool about 10 or 15 feet above the trail, deep enough for bottles. Still low flow, but it appears the flow has not changed much in the last month. Hopefully that means it will continue for awhile... | 2007-07-02 | Perry | 2007-07-02 | |
| Low, but enough to fit a water bottle into if you dig a little. | 2007-07-05 | Marc | 2007-07-05 | |
| The small creek along the trail laving the camp was flowing slowly. It was easy to collect plenty of water for drinking and there were pools that would have made filtering easy. | 2007-07-07 | Alan Kleinsasser | 2007-07-08 | |
| Flow is small but brisk. Pools above the trail are deep enough to wash feet. | 2007-07-09 | Brainybuffoon | 2007-07-18 | |
| Decent pools and flow of water for filtering. | 2007-07-22 | Steve | 2007-07-23 | |
| It was noticeably lower than the last time I posted, but still flowing enough to fill water bottles. It did rain enough to possibly increase water flow temporarily. | 2007-07-26 | Perry | 2007-07-28 | |
| Excellent flow found below the camp site next to the stream - nice waterfall in the canyon below, visible as you approach the camp. | 2007-07-28 | Rich | 2007-07-30 | |
| Lowest I've seen so far this year. Barely enough for water bottles. Soon it will only be useable if you have a pump with a tube. The effects of that rain on July 26 were very short-term. It's now a trickle again. | 2007-08-06 | Perry | 2007-08-06 | |
| Water flow okay, definitely enough to pump if needed. | 2007-08-11 | Tyler | 2007-08-13 | |
| There's still a decent flow for filtering. | 2007-08-18 | Marie | 2007-08-21 | |
| Good water flow in the stream. | 2007-08-17 | ruscal | 2007-08-21 | |
| Low water flow, but filterable if you upstream a bit. | 2007-09-09 | Denise | 2007-09-10 | |
| Waterfall going 200 or so yards below High Creek - good luck getting to it. Decent water flow at High Creek Camp, just up and across the drainage. Oh, when I say I will be back if no water, I mean: abort current trip and be back another day | 2007-11-23 | MAN | 2007-11-25 | |
| High Meadow Springs: Water is a bit downhill from camp | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| Lots of water flowing! | 2006-05-28 | Brent Miller | 2006-05-29 | |
| Good water supply. The upper 30 feet of the spring was beginning to dry out. | 2006-06-16 | Mike Peralez | 2006-07-04 | |
| Water flow minimal but suitable for use with water filter. Note: I went to the first place I saw water. There may be another spot in the meadow that is more suitable. | 2006-09-14 | Hikin' Jim | 2006-09-21 | |
| good flow | 2006-11-11 | John | 2006-11-13 | |
| Water was flowing gently, but not off of the wooden trough that is normally the best place to filter. Bring a pot or something to filter out of. If you have never been to this spring before, note that you have to find the meadow below the campsites and look for the wet area. The area is somewhat steep.UTM 11 S 0512322 3775842 (someone else please verify) | 2007-05-26 | Phil R | 2007-05-28 | |
| Low flow, pump necessary. | 2007-05-26 | TimM | 2007-05-28 | |
| Water is flowing very slowly. There was sufficient volume to collect several liters in a few minutes. We collected water in a 1/2 liter bottle and used it to fill a couple of 1 liter bottles. It was hard to do much else. We did not filter, although that would have help to keep the dirt out. | 2007-07-07 | Alan Kleinsasser | 2007-07-08 | |
| XC up Plummer Meadow to HMS water most of the way ----- scarcer at the top but still there! | 2007-09-20 | D | 2007-09-21 | |
| Jackstraw: No features noted | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| This post is for Jan 2006.. Water was heard bubbling under the snow. We dug a hole and found the spring was flowing. | 2006-01-28 | Steven Myers | 2006-01-29 | |
| drying up, but enough of a flow to work. | 2006-07-31 | lusciouslars | 2006-08-09 | |
| Not a lot of water, but enough to use with a water filter. There was also a creek running well about half way up to Jackstraw from the Forsee trail head. There are also some springs marked some distance along the trail below Jackstraw springs. Very minimal water here. You'd really have to work at it to get water here. It was mostly in puddles on the trail. Yuck. | 2006-09-15 | Hikin' Jim | 2006-09-21 | |
| Flowing | 2007-04-22 | Alon | 2007-04-25 | |
| Water flowing at both locations. Flow low for this time of year. Lower flow than last September (the last time I was through this area). | 2007-04-27 | Hikin' Jim | 2007-04-30 | |
| Additional Note: En Route to Jackstraw, Round Cienga Creek is flowing and has useable water. Stetson Creek is dry at both lower and upper trail crossings. One small seep above Stetson creek en route to Jackstraw, but the only pools I saw were directly on the trail. | 2007-04-27 | Hikin' Jim | 2007-04-30 | |
| Low flow, a trickle just above the trail and puddles all around. | 2007-05-28 | TimM | 2007-05-28 | |
| Puddles but no observable flow at the first seep. Measured about 1 qt/min at the spring closest to camping area: must use pump in very muddy bottom puddles. | 2007-06-08 | Gary Bickel | 2007-06-08 | |
| Normal streamlettes were dry. | 2007-07-28 | Phil R | 2007-08-01 | |
| Went in today all streams and springs dry, except the very last one nearest the camp. Trickle of a flow, but small pools could be pumped, and the stream still runs. | 2007-08-04 | Corgiman | 2007-08-04 | |
| Johns Meadow: Camp is located between two streams | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| Both streams of either side of the camp are flowing well. | YEAR-07-30 | Phil R | 2006-09-03 | |
| As always, plenty of water in both creeks on either side of the trail camp at John's Meadow. Also some water in creeks on trail from Forsee Cr. trailhead. | 2006-09-16 | Hikin' Jim | 2006-09-21 | |
| All springs and streams were running, But flow is low for this time of year | 2007-04-05 | AOHiker | 2007-04-12 | |
| Water flowing well at Forsee Creek and the two small subsidiary branches of Forsee Creek that are East of the trail camp. Flow low for this time of year. | 2007-04-25 | Hikin' Jim | 2007-04-30 | |
| Plenty of water. Pump not necessary. | 2007-05-28 | TimM | 2007-05-28 | |
| Plenty of water in both creeks on either side of the trail camp at John's Meadow. | 2007-09-16 | Greg B | 2007-09-16 | |
| Plenty of water flowing in both creeks. Plenty of snow, too. | 2008-04-06 | James | 2008-04-27 | |
| Limber Pine: Limber Pine: Water is .3 mi East (up trail) | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| This observation is Jan 15th 2006. Dug a hole about a foot or more in the snow. Came across running water. Amazingly enough the spring is still flowing. | 2003-01-15 | Steven Myers | 2006-01-16 | |
| this report is for Feb 18 2006. Dug through the snow. Found the spring still running underneath | 2006-02-18 | Steven Myers | 2006-02-19 | |
| 2-18-06. Flowing water can be found under the snow at the spring | 2006-02-18 | Steve Myers | 2006-02-20 | |
| Lots of water flowing on either side of the campground along the trail (about .25 miles). Some snow still left at the camps. | 2006-05-27 | Brent Miller | 2006-05-29 | |
| enough of a flow to work. | 2006-09-02 | lusciouslars | 2006-09-03 | |
| good flow | 2006-11-11 | John | 2006-11-13 | |
| Water flowing well. Was easy to pump water with my MSR filter. Limber Pine Bench free of snow, but a lot of snow on trail on N facing slopes above LP Spgs. | 2007-04-26 | Hikin' Jim | 2007-04-30 | |
| flow at the place above limber pine trail camp. no flow where the trail crosses the "stream" below limber pine trail camp. | 2007-05-14 | ml | 2007-05-14 | |
| Low flow, a small trickle with puddles. | 2007-05-26 | TimM | 2007-05-28 | |
| Very little flow but still a few puddles - don't count on it for long! Never seen it this low this early | 2007-06-10 | D | 2007-06-10 | |
| Very low flow, but still enough to fill water bottles if you need to. | 2007-07-21 | Kathy W. | 2007-07-22 | |
| Very low flow still, but enough to fill bottles. About 30 feet up is the best place to get the water. | 2007-08-18 | Mike M | 2007-08-20 | |
| Water still flowing- okay for filtering | 2007-09-16 | Ben | 2007-09-27 | |
| Very low trickle, enough to filter if you're patient. | 2007-09-30 | Jonny C | 2007-10-01 | |
| Limber Pine Spring is now DRY! I did not see any place to obtain water on the entire trail all day. | 2007-10-20 | DRHABES | 2007-10-25 | |
| Lodgepole Spring: The usual source if camping at Dry Lake | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| Spring is flowing well. Plenty of pools to filter to from. You need to go about 100 yds or more up the canyon to find it. The water goes underground before reaching Dry Lake | 2003-01-01 | Steven Myers | 2006-01-07 | |
| It's dry down by the lake, but there is plenty of water if you follow the dry bed up a couple of hundred yards. When you see lots of green plants, that's the best spot to filter. | 2006-06-30 | Ricardo | 2006-07-05 | |
| Spring is still running (about 200 yards from Dry Lake). Best location for filling up is near the greenery. | 2006-07-02 | Steve & Haan-Fawn | 2006-07-05 | |
| Good flow and could filter below the greenery. Dry Lake is still very full (but I wouldn't filter from it unless I had to). | 2006-09-03 | Phil R | 2006-09-03 | |
| Plenty of water. Easy to use with filter. | 2006-09-13 | Hikin' Jim | 2006-09-21 | |
| Actually this comment is for DRY LAKE (don't know why they don't have that option). PLENTY of water in the Lake. | 2006-09-14 | Hikin' Jim | 2006-09-21 | |
| lake is about 1/3 full and brackish. the spring is flowing moderately. hard not to pick up a leaf or twig without a filter. lots of flies. pair of clark's nutcrackers drinking from spring. tamed doe meandering through camp. | 2007-06-30 | lusciouslars | 2007-07-03 | |
| Dry lake has water in it will need filtered. Logdgpole springs running at a good trickle. | 2007-07-07 | corgiman | 2007-07-07 | |
| Low flow, but still plenty to fill all water needs. | 2007-07-15 | Mike Peralez | 2007-07-17 | |
| More than 1 gallon every 10 seconds. Several man made 6" deep pools for filtering. We collected water from a little waterfall into a 1 gallon jug and filtered from the jug. | 2007-07-13 | Bob | 2007-07-18 | |
| Slow flow, but enough to filter out of. | 2007-07-18 | Marc | 2007-07-18 | |
| three reports of usable water and good flow | 2007-08-05 | Corgiman | 2007-08-05 | |
| Decent flow at the spring. The trace trail to Fish Creek Saddle is crossed by the water about 5 mins beyond Dry Lake. Water disappears underground almost immediately. | 2007-09-29 | Lopzilla | 2007-10-16 | |
| Still water coming from the spring, its a slow trickle but plenty of water to fill up with | 2007-11-11 | adam | 2007-11-14 | |
| Mineshaft Flat: Water is .3 mi down trail | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| Good flow | 2007-06-20 | DaveB | 2007-06-26 | |
| Good cold, flow. Beware of stinging nettle. .3 miles is optimistic. | 2007-07-01 | GrantB | 2007-07-02 | |
| Good flow at spring and creek. | 2007-07-14 | Mike Peralez | 2007-07-17 | |
| Good flow at springs and further down the valley (center) due to lots of water seepage on hillside. | 2007-09-28 | SteveM | 2007-10-01 | |
| Saxton Trail Camp: Water is .2 mi West | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| Water before camp and at Plummer meadows flowing good | 2006-09-24 | Steel | 2006-09-30 | |
| Good Flow | 2006-10-07 | Bill G. | 2006-10-09 | |
| Nice Flow | 2007-06-13 | D | 2007-06-13 | |
| Flowing quite well; plenty of water. Filterable pools. Also: there's even more water in the creek that descends from High Meadow Spgs and crosses the Falls Cr Tr (the trail that Saxton is on) in the Plummer Meadows area. | 2007-09-20 | |||
| South Fork Meadows: Water is all over around here. Can't miss it. | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| Lots of water. Beautiful, cool, and refreshing. You'll hear it long before you see it. | 2006-06-30 | Ricardo | 2006-07-05 | |
| ABUNDANT water. Can't go wrong here. | 2006-09-13 | Hikin' Jim | 2006-09-21 | |
| Plenty of water, a pump is unnessary. | 2007-05-27 | TimM | 2007-05-28 | |
| Plenty of water | 2007-07-18 | Marc | 2007-07-18 | |
| Plenty of water | 2007-07-18 | Marc | 2007-07-18 | |
| Flowing well, always beautiful | 2007-08-05 | Big Bear Today | 2007-08-06 | |
| Water flow is good at the trail crossing to Dry Lake. | 2007-10-14 | Space Hiker | 2007-10-16 | |
| Trailfork: No features noted | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| Water is running good out of the pipe at the Spring. Water is also running good in the stream. | 2006-06-10 | Kathy | 2006-06-11 | |
| looks dry to me. could not find water. | 2006-09-02 | lusciouslars | 2006-09-03 | |
| Maybe I didn't know where to look, but I rustled around in the Willows but saw no useable water. I suppose if you were desperate you could filter the mud ... good luck. | 2006-09-15 | Hikin' Jim | 2006-09-21 | |
| Water b a r e l y trickling out of pipe into small pool, enough to pump out of. Pipe located in the bushes below the trail. | 2006-10-01 | Ramblindave | 2006-10-02 | |
| Completely frozen and buried. Plenty of snow to melt for water. | 2007-04-27 | Hikin' Jim | 2007-04-30 | |
| no water. small dirty patches of snow. | 2007-05-13 | ml | 2007-05-14 | |
| A tiny trickle comes out of the pipe if you push down on it. Water also can be pumped out from puddles. | 2007-05-27 | TimM | 2007-05-28 | |
| Vivian Trail Camp: No features noted | Conditions | Date Observed | Observed By | Date Posted |
| This is for Feb 26 2006. Plenty of water running. | 2006-02-26 | Steven M | 2006-03-08 | |
| Observed 2/26/06. Plenty of water at the camp. | 2006-02-26 | Steve M | 2006-03-08 | |
| Good water, flowing stream | 2006-06-11 | Lance Smith | 2006-06-15 | |
| water flowing well | 2007-04-01 | AsABat | 2007-04-02 | |
| Water flow was good at Vivian | 2007-04-15 | gsnishi | 2007-04-17 | |
| Good flow | YEAR-MONTH-DAY | Dan Girard | 2007-05-07 | |
| Plenty of water around Vivian Creek!! Enjoy!! | 2007-05-27 | RON J | 2007-05-27 | |
| Nice flow - but much less than normal | 2007-06-13 | D | 2007-06-13 | |
| Lower than usual, but adequate flow. | 2007-07-05 | Marc | 2007-07-05 | |
| Still more than adequate flow of water for filtering water. | 2007-07-22 | Steve | 2007-07-23 | |
| Still more than adequate flow of water for filtering water. | 2007-08-11 | Tyler | 2007-08-13 | |
| Still good flow for filtering. | 2007-08-19 | Marie | 2007-08-21 | |
| Good water flow. | 2007-08-17 | ruscal | 2007-08-21 | |
| Good water flow. | 2007-09-09 | Denise | 2007-09-10 | |
| water condition very good. lots of flow. clear snow runoffs. | 2008-04-11 | ryan | 2008-04-24 | |
| Good water flow, but not as strong as usual for the end of spring. The creek above the camp had pretty good flow in spots along the trail. | 2008-05-04 | Phil R. | 2008-05-05 | |